tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post4428972161505041268..comments2024-02-27T11:52:08.507+02:00Comments on Η Γενιά των 700 ευρώ: Time to think. Jump off the horse of deceitful ideologyG700http://www.blogger.com/profile/02148911035437562534noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-65158450209552253212023-04-26T07:44:38.458+03:002023-04-26T07:44:38.458+03:00Interesting post. I Have Been wondering about this...Interesting post. I Have Been wondering about this issue, so thanks for posting. <br /><br><br />Read on: <em><a href="https://www.terrorstrikes.info" rel="nofollow">Terrorism</a></em><br />ariellechkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14532049567150086294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-18636804180211666422012-06-12T09:52:14.208+03:002012-06-12T09:52:14.208+03:00I couldn't agree more,jaga.My questions were r...I couldn't agree more,jaga.My questions were rhetorical.passionariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11335075480016704665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-46611230867304637412012-06-12T01:48:00.815+03:002012-06-12T01:48:00.815+03:00"Hurried Spanish banking bailout fails to cal..."Hurried Spanish banking bailout fails to calm market nerves" (11/6/2012):<br /><br />>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jun/11/spanish-banking-bailout-market-nerves?intcmp=239<br /><br />That's it. Only a planetary bailout by the Martians can "calm the markets" now.Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03510802401638472909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-32402510973270748932012-06-12T01:20:31.372+03:002012-06-12T01:20:31.372+03:00Just to make this clear (again) for all:
The diffe...Just to make this clear (again) for all:<br />The difference between a technocrat that is below or above an elected leader is the same as the difference between democracy and oligarchy. It's called electing prerogative. MAJOR difference, above and beyond any "economic stability".Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03510802401638472909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-24662636378554186722012-06-12T01:02:43.772+03:002012-06-12T01:02:43.772+03:00@Gμόσιος:
Το ακριβώς αντίθετο, δείχνει ξεκάθαρα ό...@Gμόσιος:<br /><br />Το ακριβώς αντίθετο, δείχνει ξεκάθαρα ότι κανείς στην ΕΕ δεν ενδιαφέρεται για ανάπτυξη στις χώρες που καταστρέφονται ενώ οι τράπεζές τους διασώζωνται. Ποταμός χρήματος στις τράπεζες, αλλά κλείσιμο κάνουλας σε όλες τις αναπτυξιακές διόδους.<br /><br />Η συνταγή (WB/IMF κατά Στίγκλιτς) λέει ότι διασώζεται το χρηματοπιστωτικό σύστημα, ψοφάει η πλέμπα και καθαρίζει η αγορά, και στη συνέχεια εγκαθιδρύεται μια νέα οικονομία, δύο σκάλες κάτω από την προηγούμενη.<br /><br />Μπορεί να μη σας αρέσει που τα γράφω εγώ, αλλά 9 στους 10 οικονομολόγους παγκοσμίως αυτό ακριβώς περιγράφει πλέον. Μόνο οι τραπεζίτες και οι τροικανοί έχουν μείνει να λένε για ανάπτυξη δια μέσου λιτότητας, ξανά και ξανά, παρότι έχει αποτύχει οικτρά σε όλες τις χώρες.Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03510802401638472909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-47932798785080280942012-06-11T23:47:59.953+03:002012-06-11T23:47:59.953+03:00And why bother to vote?Why bother to replace a tec...And why bother to vote?Why bother to replace a technocratic government,if it is efficient and effective?passionariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11335075480016704665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-90650446641221711502012-06-11T23:41:05.464+03:002012-06-11T23:41:05.464+03:00Mind your p's(doped).Mind your p's(doped).passionariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11335075480016704665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-5402931487010599872012-06-11T22:29:19.568+03:002012-06-11T22:29:19.568+03:00Silvia, many thanks for your reply.
Italy is a g...Silvia, many thanks for your reply. <br /><br />Italy is a good example of how to bypass rotten political systems temporarily in order to bring back economic stability without overthrowing the fundamentals of an otherwise democratic regime.<br /><br />In Greece unfortunately we exhaust the debate at the level of who wins and who loses elections and we constantly breed political rottenness. We barely talk about the policies themselves, living in a constant haze of misinformation, mostly caused by our reluctance to process the facts that are otherwise abundant all around us. And of course, there is always a third party to blame when we make mistakes, we never really take responsibility over our own decisions. And for this reason, when and if the time to exit the European Union comes, it won't be us making that decision. We will simply play yet another time the role of the victim seeking for a new enemy to direct our populist fury.rat700https://www.blogger.com/profile/12521265367683441262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-88319284484062220272012-06-11T21:13:39.889+03:002012-06-11T21:13:39.889+03:00Αν και σε εποχή euro football η επιχειρηματολογική...Αν και σε εποχή euro football η επιχειρηματολογική σου ντρίπλα με τα κομμένα λεφτά της ΕΤΕΠ μαρκάρεται εύκολα. <br />Η κίνηση της ΕΤΕΠ είναι για κλάμματα γιατί είναι σήμα του τι θα ακολουθήσει σε επίπεδο κοψίματος χρηματοδότησης εφόσον η Ελλάδα υιοθετήσει τις συριζοκίνητες φαντασιώσεις σαν εθνική πολιτικήGμόσιοςhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11472373424893701474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-61576812288022305342012-06-11T21:08:04.640+03:002012-06-11T21:08:04.640+03:00rat700 δεν έχεις δίκιο. Το παιδί δεν είναι εντεταλ...rat700 δεν έχεις δίκιο. Το παιδί δεν είναι εντεταλμένος του ΣΥΡΙΖΑ ένας απλώς αχταρμάς είναι.xanoum mpourekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18401569151274074040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-22152314659334134022012-06-11T19:02:25.741+03:002012-06-11T19:02:25.741+03:00@rat700:
Έχεις πάψει εδώ και καιρό να προσφέρεις ...@rat700:<br /><br />Έχεις πάψει εδώ και καιρό να προσφέρεις κάτι χρήσιμο στο blog, ως πληροφορία ή ως προσωπική άποψη.<br /><br />Μόλις παρατήσεις αυτό το επίπεδο ΧΑ και αρχίσεις να γράφεις πάλι πολιτισμένα, ευχαρίστως να κουβεντιάσουμε την όποια διαφωνία μας.Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03510802401638472909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-84447164451202425012012-06-11T18:59:53.333+03:002012-06-11T18:59:53.333+03:00@Gμόσιος:
Δεν είναι για γέλια, για κλάματα είναι....@Gμόσιος:<br /><br />Δεν είναι για γέλια, για κλάματα είναι. Όχι για τα λεφτά που δεν θα πάνε σε κότερα επιχειρηματιών, αλλά για τα υπόλοιπα που δεν θα πάνε σε υγιείς επιχειρήσεις εξ' αιτίας τους.<br /><br />Αλλά αυτό δείχνει ότι αν το ΕΣΠΑ λειτουργούσε με όρους EFSF, δηλαδή οι επιχειρήσεις αντιμετωπίζονταν ως τράπεζες, τα λεφτά θα χαρίζονταν αφειδώς και το κράτος που τις φιλοξενείς θα έμπαινε εγγυητής και αποπληρωτής. Δεν νομίζω ότι θα το θέλαμε αυτό.Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03510802401638472909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-10086556982352837662012-06-11T16:19:32.210+03:002012-06-11T16:19:32.210+03:00oxi jaga apla apofasisa na se intrigkaro giati eix...oxi jaga apla apofasisa na se intrigkaro giati eixa mia megali ypopsia oti den eisai apla afelis, alla apestalmenos, kai pithana epi pliromis, fairefonos tou Syriza. Kai se eyxaristo poly pou me tis apantiseis sou, epeidi eisai os xaraktiras arketa afelis, mou dialeykanes tis apories mou. <br /><br />Den ksero an oi ypoloipoi pou se diabazoun sexoun parei prefa, alla toulaxiston tora ksero ti kaneis, to diadiktyako pezodromio tou kommatos sou.<br /><br />G700, o Jaga katestrepse to blog sas. Krima pou edo kai kairo den akousate tosous sxoliastes nas sas to lene kai na sas ekliparoun na rythmisete to spam tou.rat700https://www.blogger.com/profile/12521265367683441262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-49705232396360789722012-06-11T12:49:16.743+03:002012-06-11T12:49:16.743+03:00Rat700, while in normal circumstances I would not ...Rat700, while in normal circumstances I would not be in favour of a non-elected government, I am struggling to find fault with the idea of a technocratic cabinet that can take urgent measures in a relatively short span of time, to build the necessary confidence in the markets and make outside investment in a country such as Italy competitive. <br /><br />The added benefit of a technocratic goverment is that it should not have any hidden agenda to promote a culture of corruption and personal gain in the political class, which is what had marred and stained the Italian politicos for as long as I can remember. The Monti government has no ambition to stay on after the end of its term and turn into a political animal of its own. What is urgent is a set of reforms that will be implemented across the board: this means liberalisations, fight against micro-corruption and tax-dodging (Monti has recovered six billion euros in unpaid taxes in the span of four months), a radical reform of the labour market and a more meritocratic social mobility. This is a tall call, also because our unions are hell-bent to protect the more vulnerable classes- pensioners and the youth, who are, as you may expect, struggling immensely, due to cuts to pensions and a direction towards fixed-term work-contracts. <br /><br />In brief, I would be happy to see such a change in Greece too, but aside of the possibility of a technocratic goverment (which is not a possible option for you *now*, given that you are set to vote and install a political party or coalition), I strongly believe that any result as outlined above is only possible if your votes are directed towards moderate reformist parties rather than radicalists whose auspices lie in severing ties with the EU. Getting out of Europe will mean that Greece will cease altogether to be a possible investment from the outside world: it will mean that your power to buy will be non-existent because your currency will be immensely devalued (that will mean no more importing), and you will be ridden by rampant inflation for decades. This is well known by now. <br /><br />The positive note is that even the EU intelligentsia has finally understood that austerity measures are less than impactful without a reformist stance that will plug confidence and create jobs. I sincerely hope that the next Greek goverment will fight corruption first and then make businesses (small and big) competitive- liberalisation is key. But I equally believe that the Greek people will need to show unity and vote soundly, allowing the reforms to happen fast. Protest votes and abstention are criminal at this stage: do not allow Greece to implode.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15657936120411152108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-29806147827069106482012-06-11T12:47:21.121+03:002012-06-11T12:47:21.121+03:00The European investment Bank has cut lending and g...The European investment Bank has cut lending and guarantees by 50% and some still believe Alexis is the stallion to pull us out of the crisis. Silvia you are right. Passionaria stay tuned stay dopped on deceitful ideology.Gμόσιοςhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11472373424893701474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-23735767491291775132012-06-11T12:44:36.275+03:002012-06-11T12:44:36.275+03:00Έχω ξεκαρδιστεί.Έχω ξεκαρδιστεί.Gμόσιοςhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11472373424893701474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-61639652924339127012012-06-11T12:43:30.093+03:002012-06-11T12:43:30.093+03:00Η Ευρωπαϊκή Τράπεζα Επενδύσεων αποφάσισε να μειώσε...<a href="http://www.capital.gr/News.asp?id=1525009" rel="nofollow">Η Ευρωπαϊκή Τράπεζα Επενδύσεων αποφάσισε να μειώσει στο μισό τα δάνεια προς εταιρείες με εγγύηση λεφτά του ΕΣΠΑ, για να διατηρήσει την πιστοληπτική της ικανότητα.Πάγος στα δάνεια για τα μεγάλα οδικά έργα.</a> <br /><br />Αυτό είναι για γέλια;Gμόσιοςhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11472373424893701474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-36129272759153864772012-06-11T11:10:27.706+03:002012-06-11T11:10:27.706+03:00Σε δραχμές μας πληρώνουν οι σύντροφοι...
Σοβαρά τ...Σε δραχμές μας πληρώνουν οι σύντροφοι...<br /><br />Σοβαρά τώρα, ο πανικός σας είναι για γέλια. Εγώ παραθέτω links και δημοσιεύματα με επίσημες δηλώσεις, και εσείς βρίζετε σαν κακομαθημένα παιδάκια που τους προσέβαλλαν την ομάδα.Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03510802401638472909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-1427751496210154942012-06-11T10:24:33.045+03:002012-06-11T10:24:33.045+03:00Get off the horse of deceitful ideology and mount ...Get off the horse of deceitful ideology and mount the mule of real-politik.O.K,sylvia,we got the message,but we can't get it across to the ordinary people:for years who gave a shit for them anyway?passionariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11335075480016704665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-83218403973689495472012-06-11T01:35:40.156+03:002012-06-11T01:35:40.156+03:00To geuro os to telos tou 2012 tha einai i pio bios...To geuro os to telos tou 2012 tha einai i pio biosimi lysi.rat700https://www.blogger.com/profile/12521265367683441262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-1678930490735245632012-06-11T01:33:03.914+03:002012-06-11T01:33:03.914+03:00Sylvia > Silvia (sorry)Sylvia > Silvia (sorry)rat700https://www.blogger.com/profile/12521265367683441262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-74445764507356454962012-06-11T01:32:23.214+03:002012-06-11T01:32:23.214+03:00Sylvia, what's your opinion of the Monti gover...Sylvia, what's your opinion of the Monti government? Good or bad practice for Europe? Would you support a similar type of government in Greece?rat700https://www.blogger.com/profile/12521265367683441262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-25661291487046970712012-06-11T01:29:19.153+03:002012-06-11T01:29:19.153+03:00tromolagne jaga posa se plironei o lafazanis gia n...tromolagne jaga posa se plironei o lafazanis gia na aradiazeis ola ta asxeta paradimosiografika sabourografa?rat700https://www.blogger.com/profile/12521265367683441262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-54559007176355328892012-06-10T21:24:23.438+03:002012-06-10T21:24:23.438+03:00Σαν Ελλάδα μάλλον δεν θα προλάβουμε να καλωσορίσου...Σαν Ελλάδα μάλλον δεν θα προλάβουμε να καλωσορίσουμε τίποτα. Κανά Geuro διπλό νόμισμα αν είμαστε τυχεροί.Gμόσιοςhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11472373424893701474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2098410698862974038.post-88081985586294740552012-06-10T17:26:43.327+03:002012-06-10T17:26:43.327+03:00"«Ελαφρύ» Μνημόνιο για την Ισπανία, νίκη του ..."«Ελαφρύ» Μνημόνιο για την Ισπανία, νίκη του ευρώ λέει ο Ραχόι" (10/6/2012):<br /><br />>> http://tvxs.gr/news/kosmos/elafry-lite-mnimonio-gia-tin-ispania<br /><br /><i>"...Τα χρήματα θα χορηγηθούν στο ισπανικό ταμείο ενίσχυσης των τραπεζών (FROB) το οποίο με τη σειρά του θα τα διοχετεύσει σε κάθε τράπεζα ξεχωριστά. Η ισπανική κυβέρνηση θα έχει την πλήρη ευθύνη και θα υπογράψει μνημόνιο κατανόησης..."</i><br /><br />Με το τρικ του FROB, το EFSF και το ESM "δανείζουν" σχεδόν κατευθείαν στις ισπανικές τράπεζες χρήματα Ευρωπαίων φορολογούμενων. Αυτό δηλαδή που ήθελαν να πετύχουν εξ' αρχής. Και φυσικά η εγγυήσεις αποπληρωμής είναι κρατικές. Εξ' ου και το πιο χαλαρό "μνημόνιο κατανόησης". Μόλις σε 6-12 μήνες οι τράπεζες θα έχουν ξαναπατώσει, θα σφίξει ο κορσές.<br /><br />ΑΠοχαιρετήστε την ΕΕ, καλωσωρίστε την ΕΤΕ (Ευρωπαϊκή Τραπεζική Ένωση).Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03510802401638472909noreply@blogger.com